I appreciate your commentary on the upcoming stakes and of course, identify with your bitch about the late changing odds after the horses have been loaded and before the gates are sprung open. But horseplayers will not boycott and old-timers such as me, won't be going to other gambling venues, though wagering with much less enthusiasm. But youthful players have begun to realize that even given a thousand bucks to start them off gambling on sporting events, they have lost triple that amount after the first two weeks. At least that is what my friend's nephew told him after wagering on baseball. The House rakes in the money no matter the gambling proposition and I'm guessing the new sports books will gain more losing customers before it all settles down and the next opportunity to rake it in comes along. But the least the racetrack managers can do is to create a situation where those betting into their pools are again excited after making a wager and not pissed that they were robbed even after winning.
Larry I agree on all fronts. The best way to break it down is to just ask the question…what’s next if those holding winning tickets on a race feel ripped off? How do the powers that be explain that away?
We all know that no gambling game favors the bettor and never will, but if you're betting the NBA you don't bet on the Celtics -110 and have your bet change to -200 right before the game started. That's where horse racing is right now.
Outside of complaining about it or me learning to be a computer hacker to disrupt the CAW teams, probably not much. Which of course leads to even more frustration
I think the Feds need to look into this and I don’t understand why they haven’t. It has to be something that is or should be illegal. Especially when we know who is doing this and where these bets are coming from. Offshore gambling company owned by you know who.
Anyway Arabian Lion has the action of a turf horse and he has shown he’s over the dirt one too many times. Reminds me of Messier who is now in the HRA sale. Hopefully someone with a brain buys him and gets his career back on track.
It's been explained a billion times why it doesn't have to be illegal. The tote system takes 30-60 seconds to register all the bets, and we're at the point where up to 70% of the money is being bet in the last minute before the bell rings. Sure, there could be past posting, but there doesn't have to be any for the same situation to occur. The big bettors (call them whales, call them whatever) like betting with a few seconds to post, so nothing will change.
The money going into those accounts could be illegal. The tracks should shut wagering down sooner if that’s what needs to be done. Who wants to bet when it looks rigged? Not me.
I appreciate your commentary on the upcoming stakes and of course, identify with your bitch about the late changing odds after the horses have been loaded and before the gates are sprung open. But horseplayers will not boycott and old-timers such as me, won't be going to other gambling venues, though wagering with much less enthusiasm. But youthful players have begun to realize that even given a thousand bucks to start them off gambling on sporting events, they have lost triple that amount after the first two weeks. At least that is what my friend's nephew told him after wagering on baseball. The House rakes in the money no matter the gambling proposition and I'm guessing the new sports books will gain more losing customers before it all settles down and the next opportunity to rake it in comes along. But the least the racetrack managers can do is to create a situation where those betting into their pools are again excited after making a wager and not pissed that they were robbed even after winning.
Larry I agree on all fronts. The best way to break it down is to just ask the question…what’s next if those holding winning tickets on a race feel ripped off? How do the powers that be explain that away?
We all know that no gambling game favors the bettor and never will, but if you're betting the NBA you don't bet on the Celtics -110 and have your bet change to -200 right before the game started. That's where horse racing is right now.
We now need to act together to take additional steps. Another incident is a daily occurrence. What is the next step to provoke changes?
Outside of complaining about it or me learning to be a computer hacker to disrupt the CAW teams, probably not much. Which of course leads to even more frustration
Well, Oaklawn and NYRA deserve some credit for their actions, at a minimum.
I think the Feds need to look into this and I don’t understand why they haven’t. It has to be something that is or should be illegal. Especially when we know who is doing this and where these bets are coming from. Offshore gambling company owned by you know who.
Anyway Arabian Lion has the action of a turf horse and he has shown he’s over the dirt one too many times. Reminds me of Messier who is now in the HRA sale. Hopefully someone with a brain buys him and gets his career back on track.
It's been explained a billion times why it doesn't have to be illegal. The tote system takes 30-60 seconds to register all the bets, and we're at the point where up to 70% of the money is being bet in the last minute before the bell rings. Sure, there could be past posting, but there doesn't have to be any for the same situation to occur. The big bettors (call them whales, call them whatever) like betting with a few seconds to post, so nothing will change.
The money going into those accounts could be illegal. The tracks should shut wagering down sooner if that’s what needs to be done. Who wants to bet when it looks rigged? Not me.