I very much enjoy the manner in which you sum up the previous day and the racing. The words settle nicely in my brain and I come up away thinking, "yeah, that is how I saw it." Really fine work with this thing you are doing...
Too many, including you, are presuming wrongdoing and casting aspersions without facts. This area of the law is full of exaggeration and lies. However, as I said earlier today--A female D.A., a female assistant D.A. , a female justice and Saratoga County--good luck Chad Brown!
One of the biggest issues that we face as a society is the lack of comprehension of the written word. The law is clearly not the focus of what I wrote nor is the presumption of anything other than an incident occurred between members of the racing community that has cast the sport in a negative light. Those who rush to the defense of the accused miss the point, the overwhelming focus of modern day society is that perception is reality, which ironically your own words, that casts aspersions on the court because of the presence of women in the process, is perfect proof of.
A. I am under no objectivity restraint. I am not a news organization. I answer to no one. The fact is that I have not really said anything that is opinion related about any of the tawdry news of Thursday which also included the release of a story on a horrible racing person in Burton Sipp and a drug bust on the backside of the track. Perhaps at some point I will
B. The entire premise of what was written was in regards to the sport of racing and how it’s subject to the same human flaws of its participants as every other industry, organization or otherwise. Even a wildly biased person would have to admit that some flaw exists in those who are making news this week…otherwise they wouldn’t be making news
C. Your flippant use of sexist implications in your initial comment would seem to make your version of objectivity subject to more scrutiny, not mine.
My compliment was sincerely meant. I'm a lawyer and have aided in exonerating a number of men who have been falsely accused, including a couple of jury trials. The accusations were more serious than what Mr. Brown is facing. These matters are often contaminated by the highest degree of emotionalism; judgments, and even suspicions, can't be made at this stage. To characterize my comments as sexist is absurd, but par for the course in this day and age. Personally, I consider this matter closed. I'm sure I'll continue to enjoy your writing, which I find to be a refreshing change from the numerous industry apologists.
The outcome of the case is immaterial to what I wrote. I don’t know where you are located but in the Saratoga area this was a huge story and again regardless of the ultimate outcome, a negative one for the entire industry which was my point. That the racing industry itself shouldn’t be judged by the personal actions of individuals (let’s not forget that the alleged victim is also a member of the racing community), that people are flawed regardless of where they work.
As for your comments being sexist, you insinuated at a man can’t get a fair shake in the legal system if women are involved in the process. I don’t know how it can be taken any other way?
I happen to personally know both people involved in this situation and went to great pains to remain neutral as none of us were there, none of us have the entire background of what led up to this altercation and it’s quite possible we will never know the true story. However it’s not a private affair once it spills into the justice system and it’s not only news and it’s completely fair game.
No hard feelings but I’m trying to look at the big picture.
Of course it's a huge story--people love to hear about the mighty falling. Back in the day, I spent nearly every August race day in Saratoga and had family members doing business in the city. It's really changed, as the area in general has. Certainly men can get a fair shake. I'm familiar with cases where bastards got exactly what they deserved and I'm not referring to profile cases or those in which the evidence is overwhelming. However, there are now many locations where effectively the burden has shifted to the man. I think the genesis of this was years ago when mental health "experts" started opining that women and children don't lie. They do, although with children it's usually unwittingly. You see this bias most often in Family Court proceedings, although it's also alive and well in criminal proceedings, as Mr. Brown will discover in Saratoga County without a recantation or strong evidence adverse to the prosecution. Otherwise, to overcome the bias requires time and money, which many can't afford. This is a reality regardless of whether I'm a sexist, racist and any other imputation thrown my way. (Paradoxically, I'm a fan of turf racing, and think that the Brown juggernaut has probably been a factor in the degradation of turf racing in NY, especially in stakes.)
I very much enjoy the manner in which you sum up the previous day and the racing. The words settle nicely in my brain and I come up away thinking, "yeah, that is how I saw it." Really fine work with this thing you are doing...
Thanks Larry
Too many, including you, are presuming wrongdoing and casting aspersions without facts. This area of the law is full of exaggeration and lies. However, as I said earlier today--A female D.A., a female assistant D.A. , a female justice and Saratoga County--good luck Chad Brown!
One of the biggest issues that we face as a society is the lack of comprehension of the written word. The law is clearly not the focus of what I wrote nor is the presumption of anything other than an incident occurred between members of the racing community that has cast the sport in a negative light. Those who rush to the defense of the accused miss the point, the overwhelming focus of modern day society is that perception is reality, which ironically your own words, that casts aspersions on the court because of the presence of women in the process, is perfect proof of.
You should re-read your article. Objectivity does not shine through. By the way, I do enjoy your writing very much. This is not personal.
A. I am under no objectivity restraint. I am not a news organization. I answer to no one. The fact is that I have not really said anything that is opinion related about any of the tawdry news of Thursday which also included the release of a story on a horrible racing person in Burton Sipp and a drug bust on the backside of the track. Perhaps at some point I will
B. The entire premise of what was written was in regards to the sport of racing and how it’s subject to the same human flaws of its participants as every other industry, organization or otherwise. Even a wildly biased person would have to admit that some flaw exists in those who are making news this week…otherwise they wouldn’t be making news
C. Your flippant use of sexist implications in your initial comment would seem to make your version of objectivity subject to more scrutiny, not mine.
Thanks for the compliment btw!
My compliment was sincerely meant. I'm a lawyer and have aided in exonerating a number of men who have been falsely accused, including a couple of jury trials. The accusations were more serious than what Mr. Brown is facing. These matters are often contaminated by the highest degree of emotionalism; judgments, and even suspicions, can't be made at this stage. To characterize my comments as sexist is absurd, but par for the course in this day and age. Personally, I consider this matter closed. I'm sure I'll continue to enjoy your writing, which I find to be a refreshing change from the numerous industry apologists.
The outcome of the case is immaterial to what I wrote. I don’t know where you are located but in the Saratoga area this was a huge story and again regardless of the ultimate outcome, a negative one for the entire industry which was my point. That the racing industry itself shouldn’t be judged by the personal actions of individuals (let’s not forget that the alleged victim is also a member of the racing community), that people are flawed regardless of where they work.
As for your comments being sexist, you insinuated at a man can’t get a fair shake in the legal system if women are involved in the process. I don’t know how it can be taken any other way?
I happen to personally know both people involved in this situation and went to great pains to remain neutral as none of us were there, none of us have the entire background of what led up to this altercation and it’s quite possible we will never know the true story. However it’s not a private affair once it spills into the justice system and it’s not only news and it’s completely fair game.
No hard feelings but I’m trying to look at the big picture.
Of course it's a huge story--people love to hear about the mighty falling. Back in the day, I spent nearly every August race day in Saratoga and had family members doing business in the city. It's really changed, as the area in general has. Certainly men can get a fair shake. I'm familiar with cases where bastards got exactly what they deserved and I'm not referring to profile cases or those in which the evidence is overwhelming. However, there are now many locations where effectively the burden has shifted to the man. I think the genesis of this was years ago when mental health "experts" started opining that women and children don't lie. They do, although with children it's usually unwittingly. You see this bias most often in Family Court proceedings, although it's also alive and well in criminal proceedings, as Mr. Brown will discover in Saratoga County without a recantation or strong evidence adverse to the prosecution. Otherwise, to overcome the bias requires time and money, which many can't afford. This is a reality regardless of whether I'm a sexist, racist and any other imputation thrown my way. (Paradoxically, I'm a fan of turf racing, and think that the Brown juggernaut has probably been a factor in the degradation of turf racing in NY, especially in stakes.)